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what do you all use for your bug out bags? I'm going to start putting together two of them (for me and my wife) and I was just curious as to what you use.

school backpack style, hiking/backpacking style pack (internal or external frame?), messenger bag style, just a small double handle no shoulder strap style bag, duffel bag?

I looked at lapolicegear.com and they have some really nice bags (though some are expensive) but they have many styles and I don't know what I want!!

I'm also looking at steepandcheap.com waiting for backpacks to come up (they do every now and then). I bought my wife a 2100 Cu In "Day Pack" for like $40 on there a few months ago, so I was thinking maybe something like that again for me?

I would guess a backpack would be the easiest bug out bag to carry over long distances and also have the most room? Really I'm sure anything will work as long as its packed and ready to go...

Big Country

Some people use military type bags but I personally stray away from them.
If some guy was needing a ride and was loaded with camo and military gear,
I'd personally be a little hesitant to pick them up.

On the other hand, someone that looked like they stepped off a college campus, with bookbag in tow, might stand a better chance of being trusted
by a stranger.

REI back pack.

I'm to old to be lugging things without padding.

E-A

You might want to pile up everything you want to pack.

Than weigh it and decide if you/wife can carry that much. Then decide on the correct pack.

If you're taking 15 pounds any cheap pack might do. If you're taking 50 pounds you need a good quality pack.

I use this pack in coyote tan:

http://www.blackhawk.com/product/3-D...ack,865,44.htm

I have a 50# pack, but I am a big guy, and can easily carry such a load. I can also attach my Camelback to it, as it is compatible. This pack also goes with me if I spike-camp when hunting out west. I find that most of the items taken on a hunt are something you would want in your BOB. I have over $2000 worth of quality gear in that little sucker, and I HAVE tested it by going out 3 days into the wild with just that pack. That may sound like a lot of money, but trust me...it is a LOT of piece of mind when you end up having to use it. I have in it:

AR-7 .22 cal survival rifle with a brick of .22 ammo and small gun cleaning kit (Otis)
Survival knife, two Benchmades, and a mini tool kit
Gerber folding saw, hatchet and cable saw
magnesium fire starter, water proof matches, lighter, batteries and steel wool, lighter fluid
10 survival blankets (makes tents/shelter as well)
2 disposable ponchos
3 compases, GPS, (2) 2-way radios w/ weather channel capability, hand held night vision monocular + extra AA batteries, throw-away phone with 60 minutes (non-GPS)
50 ft of parachute cord, surveyors ribbon, reflective tacks
Whistle, Signal Flares, Mirror
First Aid Kit w/ triage manual, sunscreen, chap stick, baby powder (good to have), deoderant, tooth brush, comb, soap, nail clippers, file
Jerky, candy bars, dried fruit, granola, nuts, 6 MRE's, SPAM, all-purpose vitamins
(2) Flashlights + AA Batteries
Tin mess kit w/ cup, utensils & pan w/ handle
Very small bottle of olive oil, salt and pepper (cooking)
Topo maps, small binoculars
Water Purifier and water purification tablets
(2) changes of clothes plus sandals and extra socks
lightweight jacket
Sleeping bag (tied off to outside)
Water Canteen (also tied off)
10 oz fractional gold (the rest is stashed on my sunken boat)
50 oz silver (the rest is stashed on my sunken boat)
$1000 FRN's (to bribe the bears to leave my food alone...they're stupid and will take FRN's)

Now that might seem like a lot, but it packs away quite nicely. As I said, I have done a 3-day wilderness survival drop. There is nothing in this pack I would want to do without. I place a premium on temporary shelter, fire, and food/water. Some items are redundant, but that is because you need back-ups for everything in the woods. Having 3-4 ways to create fire is important. The .22 rifle is usually accompanied by my Glock 17 in 9mm plus 4 mags and a box of extra ammo on my side pouch just like the one ImaCannin has. I have pouches and a slung AR-15 with optics and field kit (spare springs, pins, etc...) if I want to take it along with 10 P-Mags. However, that adds another 30# when you add the ammo (300 rounds) and the gun (and it makes hitch-hiking a bit tougher...he-he). I am fully prepared for a 3-5 day bug-out if necessary before I MIGHT have to emerge from hiding.

Conventional high-quality medium-sized backpack (I got mine at REI), plus a fanny pack and a few duffle bags for the car.

Thanks guys...sorry about the double post, just noticed it and deleted the other one (musta used my back button...)

I would never get something with a bright color, the one pack we do have is gray/olive. Not military color scheme but good enough. I like the idea of being incognito with a "backpacking" style pack from REI or similar, but I also like all the nooks and pouches on the tactical bags.

I think the backpack + side pouch combo is a great idea. I was thinking maybe a backpack + fanny pack. How does the side pack ride? Could you ride a bike with it on or would it flop around too much? We have a pair of mountain bikes (soon to have racks and panniers) that would most likely be coming with us if time permitted.

We'll need to be carrying a .22 and an AR-15 as well as a Glock 17 and a CZ-85 as well. Would one of the backs made to carry a gun like this be better?

There are too many choices!!!

Also, thanks for the list of items...It will help when I start putting my pack together, once I can decide on some packs...

Big Country

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Originally Posted by Big Country (Post 1738664)

If you want to be able to conceal your AR-15, I would simply separate the upper from the lower (it's just one pin), and it will fit in any backpack (as long as it is a 16", and not a 20"). Problem with using a pack like the one you posted is, that your rifle will still be visible. That is not a good idea for traveling incognito (think OPSEC). As for the side pouch, they work great, and would not impede your motion for bike riding, or flop as they are tied down. Problem with a fanny pack is that they interfere with the backpack too much...I tried using one, and it did not work out well.

With the Max back pack or the other tactical packs, you can hook your gun on with the mollie system (all those doo-hickey loop things on it. ) It wont be hidden, but can be put on the pac. A Viking 2 point Sling is a handy device (watch the video)

The Side bag goes over the opposite shoulder and is taylor made to hang just perfect. I did not notice it flapping around. I see alot of bicyclist with over the shoulder packs and they seem to stay in place well. You can get those repelling clips for a dollar and hook on your bag then hook it to your belt loop if it moves too much. The clips also work great for other smaller bags that need to be clipped on.
I got the left side fat boy, my thought was I could carry an extra pistol in it, and a pistol in a holster on the right side on my belt.

Make sure what ever bag you get has padded shoulder straps and waist straps. The Fat Boy has a padded strap also.

Do a search on the forum for Bug Out Bags, alot of list of items have been posted.

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Originally Posted by AceNZ (Post 1738643)

Conventional high-quality medium-sized backpack (I got mine at REI), plus a fanny pack and a few duffle bags for the car.

I have the same setup, plus an ammo box. Fanny packs are very convenient, as is the 10% you get back from REI.

Thanks imacannin!

I didn't realize that you could hook the gun on those loops (I'm guessing you just have to buy the optional clip or whatever to make it work). I think that would work for me and is more what I had in mind. I'm going to seriously consider that max pack + fat boy combo!

I doubt I'd be wanting to hitchhike anywhere if I had a bug out situation. I'd get as far away from "civilization" as I could so maybe the incognito approach isn't really what I need...I won't be doing an urban bug out. Also, in a situation where I need to bug out I don't think people will be shocked to see anybody carrying weapons and it won't seem out of the ordinary. But of course that may be my bias because I'm not scared to see a person with a gun either...

Also I hadn't thought about a fanny pack being uncomfortable with a backpack, but I realize the hip support would definitely get in the way of a fanny pack.

Thanks for the suggestions!!

Big Country

I'm partial to the Camelbaks.
Hydration is critical and these guys build indestructible stuff.
I have the Motherlode.

I don't think there is one size fits all BoB.

Before stocking your bag try and answer the following questions.

#1 Where are you bugging out to? (You do have some place to go, right?)

#2 How far do you have to travel?

#3 Cross country or following roads?

#4 What season is it? What kind weather could you expect?

#5 Are you going through urban or rural environments?

#6 What kind of topography will you have to deal with?

#7 Travel by day or by night?

#8 On foot or using some sort of vehicle?

#9 What are the potential obstacles/threats?

#10 Going it alone or do you have company?

#11 Figure out your alt routes and re-answer the questions for the alts.

When you've gotten all of this figured out you should have a good idea of what you may need.

Anyways, that's my 2 cents.:s1:

Nothing fancy here, Just 4 (1 for ea person) Military issued canvas duffel bags, The ones with the shoulder straps.

More then enough room for what ever it is that I/we may need.

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Originally Posted by ImaCannin (Post 1738582)

if the time comes that you need to pull it out. At one time, LA Police Gear had a 35% off sale, and that is when I got mine.

Do you know how often they run sales at lapolicegear? was that just a one time thing never to return? or is it like honeyville that runs them, though different ones, every month or so?

Big Country